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I imagine there chilen are services that vaflik do this; but I'm wanting to explore the DIY approach first. Any kozel recommendations.

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For video digitizing I'm using a Plextor external device hooked up to a VCR (http://plextor.com/english/products/M402U.htm), but for audio I'd use a 24 bit external audio "card" between a Shure mixer and a PC.

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If you do a Google search for audio cassette conversion you'll find several services that do it for a fee, some of them quite reasonable. Mostly these services will convert to CD, but some will do custom orders, even uploading the resulting digital files to an FTP site or returning data CDs or DVDs rather than audio CDs.

I'm planning a massive 2,000-tape conversion myself (historical Alaska public radio news material from the past 25 years) and I'm looking at outsourcing the deal after doing some sample conversions myself to determine the best recording rates, etc.

Here's an audio digitization grant proposal I wrote while at UCLA: http://www.ethnomusic.ucla.edu/archive/EARvol6no2.htm#grammy
It gives an overview of what to do, especially in the "PLAN OF WORK" section. For non-archival purposes you could use the sound card on your Mac and some free software like Audacity: http://audacity.sourceforge.net/ As others noted, there's no quick way to do it. It has to be recorded in real time.

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I'm working on resurrecting some 1970s microcomputer history, and I have about 30 software tapes to digitize. The cassettes were readable and we loaded Spacewar from an old tape into one of the 4 remaining Micromind systems from the late 1970s.

Here's the gear I'm using currently:

- Radio shack desktop cassette recorder (nothing fancy here)

- Mac Mini running OS/X

- ADS Tech Instant Music USB audio device
(has optical/TOSlink? and RCA stereo inputs and outputs and cables)

It came with some Roxio software (CD spindoctor?) for loading the the stuff into AIFF file format.

Decoding the waveforms back into bits is the hard work here, I don't have software for that yet.

Doc--

I've got a couple micro cassettes recorder/players here. When you need to borrow one I'll mail it up.

Let me know--

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Another option, and one you may or may not like, is to send your tapes off to a service that will put them on CD. That said, I've not gone that route, as most of my tapes were pre-recorded, and almost all of them available on CD or other media.

I agree with the earlier post that the biggest obstacle is all the hard work involved. I put my collection of records and tapes in priority order, with a few things that could not be replaced (no CD or archive.org equivalents) at the head of the queue. I then ran a program called "audacity" (runs on just about anything) and got an adaptor for my iBook (earlier version didn't have an audio-in). Hit "play" on your device and "record" on audacity at about the same time and wait.

Since I only wanted to do this once I used bit-rate settings that were better than needed for the hissing/scratchy media I was recording from. What I ended up with was "good enough" although I could still do some processing on it if I wanted to make it quieter etc.

For the records I just let each side play through. I used Audacity to break each side into tracks as a post-process... a lot easier I think than having to re-cue for each track and edit out the pops. Plus, often playing the whole side is what you want anyway, so I kept the whole-side MP3s as well as the track versions.

Of the hundreds of records and tapes I had, after working on this for several days I concluded I was done, having only converted a few records and tapes from my priority list. As the work proceeded these "precious" artifacts from the 60's took on a more realistic place in the panoply of "things I own".

The other BIG problem is keeping a device on hand that will play whatever you have. I decided my reel to reel things weren't worth the eBay route and my own player was long gone. My turntable was on it's last legs, which drove my decision to just get it over with.

I'm glad I converted what I did, but not too sad that I didn't bother to convert it all. I've purchased quite a few individual tracks from iTunes to make up for not having a particular album from the past. Check archive.org for some of those old radio shows.

Hopefully one day someone will realize there is a market for cleaned up digitized versions of just about everything that has been recorded. All we need is for our copyright laws to be cleaned up so that such a business is possible. As it stands, I think the actual digitization is only a small part of the cost compared to the legal aspects, which is why only those "top-40" hits are finding their way into iTunes and other such sources.

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Doc, as it happens I'm in the middle of this myself right now. I'm doing a project that requires getting audio off of old tapes, mostly a mix of standard cassettes and HiFi VHS.

Here's one option, not the one I'd take and probably not what you want to do if you already have a decent deck:
http://www.thinkgeek.com/computing/drives/7a8d/

I think the Plus Deck only makes sense if you need the ability to have the software drive your tape deck, start and stop and such.

I didn't already have a decent deck, so I bought a Marantz PMD 510U off of eBay. I still have my HiFi VHS. In both cases, I run the RCA out of the device into my digital recorder, another Marantz, a PMD 670. I'm saving it to a WAV file and then doing subsequent processing with SouundSoap. No matter what I did I found that I was getting a distressing level of hiss, but SoundSoap does a fantastic job of cleaning it up.

I have a Griffin PowerWave that takes in RCA jacks for line input, and if I didn't have the PMD 670 I would use that, run to the USB port on my iBook and digitize it there.

I'm assuming that all your decks have RCA out, although the Sony may not. In your case, you could just run those into a PowerWave or a device. Do you already have a digital recorder that takes them or are you looking to go to a computer?