Getting EV-DO to work on a Treo 700p
Submitted by doc on Thu, 07/13/2006 - 05:55.
Rather than just append a comment to the end of the last thread, I thought I'd start a new one on a note of success, which may be leverage-able by other customers of Verizon and the Treo 700p.
I not only got the Treo 700p to bridge to the Net over EV-DO from a Mac laptop using a USB tether, but I notice a Linux driver in the collection included in a directory of drivers that came with USB Modem from Mobile Stream. This is an encouraging sign.
I also got the same thing going using Bluetooth.
I also got the Treo to sync with the Mac laptop, where it merged and synchronized calendar and address book entries without any problems. I have not managed to to this with any Palm device since I gave up on them with Sony Clié that now sits in a drawer somewhere.
I also got it to work with my Motorola HS850 "ear snail" bluetooth headset.
Most of that wasn't my doing, really. Credit goes to Kim, the tech support person at Palm. She helped me find and eliminate a lot of old interfering code that had been laying around the Mac laptop. Took about an hour, but it worked.
Note: Mac users may need this download here.
Tested speeds so far aren't great, but we live where cell coverage is marginal in any case.
Over the USB tether, the best speeds I got were about 200Kb down and 100Kb up. Over Bluetooth, best speeds were about 120Kb down and 80Kb up. I also got a bunch of worse readings, before I put the phone in the window.
Not ideal, but not bad. For the hell of it I tried living with it for the next two hours of work. It was okay. Should do for the beach next week.
This fix was a lucky break for the Treo, by the way. I went by the Verizon store to turn it in on the way home today, but found the store was filled with confused customers complaining that their phones wouldn't work. Turned out Verizon had an outage. Some problem with one of their cell towers. "We're working on it," they said to some customers, who passed word on to other customers, who passed word out through the crowd.
Observation: a large percentage of Verizon customers coming to see What The Problem Is were very attractive teenage girls. "What is it with this?" I said to one of the other customers, a young guy who made it his job to inform these girls beyond the call of mere information passing. "I don't know", he said, "but I'm liking the job".
The next step in this project will come at OSCON, week after next, when I will be in the company of alpha Linux hackers, including device driver gurus. I'll get to see some of the same folks when I am at Linux World Expo in San Francisco next month. Sometime between now and then I'll upgrade the ThinkPad to the latest Novell Linux Desktop (SUSE Linux 10.x). And we should be able to get something going with that laptop too.
I'll keep you posted.
Meanwhile, check out Don Marti's latest on How to get stuff working.
And thanks to all of you, here and in emails and on the phone, for your help with this.
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These comments are like rubbish
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Sometimes
Sometimes I can't understand...
Bullshit
Sorry but you are discussing bullshit
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But other said
But other said that the judgement induces common sense, tertium non datur
As one clever
As one clever person said the judgement transforms tragical hedonism.
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Interesting opinion. But IMHO it's just an opinion.
My experience
I have great experience in that. So I can understand...
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Sorry. I'm not agree with you.
I thougth Treo was Windows
I thougth Treo was Windows powered? Well, it's good to know Linux is making friends out there. No matter how great your gadget is, location is still of utmost importance. If your location does not provide good cell coverage, then you don't get to maximize the features provided. As for attractive teen girls patronizing this gadget, it's not surprising really. Who else would have the most time to tinker with this kind of gadget and squeeze it out for all its juicy features.
EVDO disconnect problem woth USB Modem and Treo 700p
I used the USB Modem software from Mobile Stream to get the USB tether to work... but only momentarily. In less than one minute, I get disconnected. I re-connected and again, in less than a minute I got disconnected. I tried connecting for a 3rd time and now, I get an error and cannot connect at all.
I have an "unlimited data" package with Verizon as well as their "tethering" upgrade.
All me settings stayed the same as when it first connected. I have a Mac iBook connected via USB. I have the following settings:
• under MODEM: I have "Enable Error Correction and Compression in Modem" turned on. I have "Wait for dial tone before dialing" turned off (as the USB MODEM manual recoommends)
• under PPP OPTIONS I have: "connect automatically" turned on. "diconnect if idle" turned off. "send PPP echo packets" turned off (this is for a Verizon service with teh Treo 700p, and the manual said I may want this back on to avoid disconnects after short period of inactivity -- so I have tested this both ways with no luck. When it first connectied successfully, this was off)
The 700p's screen went dim (screensaver mode). I've tried connecting when the screen is on - to no avail. I have made sure the USB MODEM software is still running on the Treo 700p, and it is.
Any help as to why I get disconnected so quickly and cannot re-connect now at all using initally successful settings? Any settings I may have overlooked either on the Mac or on the Treo 700p???
thanks,
ladypda
USB modem driver
Doc:
Did you have to install this software to get the stuff to work, or did it work with the native 700p?
I ask only because I may be up for a new phone, and would consider this if I didn't have to fight with it like you seem to have had to do.
Thanks,
Howard
Installations for making a Treo 700p work
Most of the work had to be on the Mac side. I understand from one Linux user that it's actually easier on a Linux box, but I haven't tackled that one yet, since I'm close to flying away to vacation for a week at the beach.
Downloads at the links I mentioned should do the job.
The biggest hassles, actually, were getting the Palm "conduits" and stuff to work with Apple's iSync. If you use Palm's calendar and Address book software, you don't have to worry about that. But if you use Apple's iCal and Address Book, you do. Having an expert human at the other end of the phone was clearly required.
I am told, and I hate to repeat it, that integration with Windows laptops and Outlook and other jewels of the Microsoft silo is excellent with the Palm 700w, which is a largely different animal than the 700p.
What I'd like to see is a 700 with Linux as the OS. And to let anybody put whatever they want on it, any way they want to.
But Palm is a silo-builder, as are Apple and Microsoft and Verizon and Cingular and Sprint, yada yada, rinse and repeat.
So, you deal the best you can.
I've got to say that I am appreciating what works about the Treo 700.
Treo 700p and Macintosh tether via USB
Hi Doc,
I see the Verizon driver says it is for Mac OS X 10.3 ... do you know if it works on 10.4.x?
My mac is an Intel version. Any idea if that matters?
Most important, would you please share the steps you took to make the Mac realize the Treo is an available network device? Network preferences does not see it, nor does Internet Connect.
Thank you very much!
--Adam Glass
EVDO on Treo 700p - troubleshoot disconnect
I used the USB Modem software from Mobile Stream to get the USB tether to work... but only momentarily. In less than one minute, I get disconnected. I re-connected and again, in less than a minute I got disconnected. I tried connecting for a 3rd time and now, I get an error and cannot connect at all.
I have an "unlimited data" package with Verizon as well as their "tethering" upgrade.
All me settings stayed the same as when it first connected. I have a Mac iBook connected via USB. I have the following settings:
• under MODEM: I have "Enable Error Correction and Compression in Modem" turned on. I have "Wait for dial tone before dialing" turned off (as the USB MODEM manual recoommends)
• under PPP OPTIONS I have: "connect automatically" turned on. "diconnect if idle" turned off. "send PPP echo packets" turned off (this is for a Verizon service with teh Treo 700p, and the manual said I may want this back on to avoid disconnects after short period of inactivity -- so I have tested this both ways with no luck. When it first connectied successfully, this was off)
The screen went dim (screensaver mode) on the 700p. I've tried connecting when the screen is on - to no avail. I have made sure the USB MODEM software is still running on the Treo 700p, and it is.
Any help as to why I get disconnected so quickly and cannot re-connect now at all using initally successful settings? Any settings I may have overlooked either on the Mac or on the Treo 700p???
thanks,
ladypda
Same situation
I have the same situation going on as ladypda discribed. Sounds like the same ibook too! I would appreciate anyone help on this issue as well. The first time I connected all seemed to go well. After that I can maintain a connection for only a few minutes. The only difference is that I am in a verizon 1x area, not EVDO.
Open for suggestions!
LJ
Interferring Code
My Treo 700p will connect via bluetooth on my Mac Mini, but not my trusty old TiBook. Could you point me in the right direction regarding "find and eliminate a lot of old interfering code that had been laying around the Mac laptop". I've googled a bunch and your post is the closest clue to fixing it for me - clearly Bluetooth EVDO will be better with the laptop than hauling arround my Cable. I use Missing Sync - could that be an issue?
TIA
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